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		<title>By: kevin gould</title>
		<link>http://www.pronaturephotographer.com/2010/05/copying-other-photographers-images-good-bad-legal/comment-page-1/#comment-2135</link>
		<dc:creator>kevin gould</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 18:56:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a very specific example of this type of landscape photo&quot;copying&quot; that I would like an opinion on just for interest sake.  The original photographer was Gary Feighen, a deceased, very well known photographer from the Stikine River area in Northern BC / southeastern alaska.  He took an Iconic photo of the river delta that is published as the cover photo on his coffee table book: Stikine &quot;The Great River&quot;. This 25 year old landscape shot has now been copied and published in National Geographic and a new coffee table book called The Sacred Headwaters by photographer Sarah Leen.   It is almost the exact same photograph, and I was suprised that there was no reference to Gary Feighen at all.  I am not a photographer but is this common practice?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a very specific example of this type of landscape photo&#8221;copying&#8221; that I would like an opinion on just for interest sake.  The original photographer was Gary Feighen, a deceased, very well known photographer from the Stikine River area in Northern BC / southeastern alaska.  He took an Iconic photo of the river delta that is published as the cover photo on his coffee table book: Stikine &#8220;The Great River&#8221;. This 25 year old landscape shot has now been copied and published in National Geographic and a new coffee table book called The Sacred Headwaters by photographer Sarah Leen.   It is almost the exact same photograph, and I was suprised that there was no reference to Gary Feighen at all.  I am not a photographer but is this common practice?</p>
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		<title>By: Links &#8211; May 21, 2010 &#171; Beautiful Flower Pictures Blog: Floral Photography by Patty Hankins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Links &#8211; May 21, 2010 &#171; Beautiful Flower Pictures Blog: Floral Photography by Patty Hankins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2010 09:07:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 May 2010 02:41:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Patrick-

Good points and I agree totally with you: you cant own a composition. I to have returned to places previously shots to see if I can improve on them and not once have I ever gotten a better shot than the first one. My point has more to do with marketable images and shooting the same stuff everyone else does. As co-owner of a stock agency we have to beg our shooters to go somewhere else or really do things differently than what we see, or as you mention; they &quot;look like a copy is probably of average quality.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Patrick-</p>
<p>Good points and I agree totally with you: you cant own a composition. I to have returned to places previously shots to see if I can improve on them and not once have I ever gotten a better shot than the first one. My point has more to do with marketable images and shooting the same stuff everyone else does. As co-owner of a stock agency we have to beg our shooters to go somewhere else or really do things differently than what we see, or as you mention; they &#8220;look like a copy is probably of average quality.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Smith</title>
		<link>http://www.pronaturephotographer.com/2010/05/copying-other-photographers-images-good-bad-legal/comment-page-1/#comment-350</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 May 2010 21:25:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, every old master used to go to Rome or elsewhere to copy the old masters, and so do photographers 
today.  In fact, on Flickr where I receive about 10,000 views per day, I encourage those photographers to visit 
places I&#039;ve been.  I provide geocoded locations and descriptions.  Then, I encourage people to come up with
a new perspective by pointing out variables that can make the same composition different.  I never get upset
when dozens of similar compositions appear in the coming weeks because competition makes for better work.
If someone comes up with something as good as my version, I may decide to try for something better!  

Nobody &#039;owns&#039; a composition!

The fact of the matter is that despite repeated attempts, I can not even copy my own work if it is a good image
with unique weather and light.  It is possible on a clear day with harsh light, to come up with the same 
composition and look, but those images number in the millions.... so what?

So as far as I&#039;m concerned, any photo that looks like a copy is probably of average quality, so this whole
controversey is less important than it may seem!

Patrick</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, every old master used to go to Rome or elsewhere to copy the old masters, and so do photographers<br />
today.  In fact, on Flickr where I receive about 10,000 views per day, I encourage those photographers to visit<br />
places I&#8217;ve been.  I provide geocoded locations and descriptions.  Then, I encourage people to come up with<br />
a new perspective by pointing out variables that can make the same composition different.  I never get upset<br />
when dozens of similar compositions appear in the coming weeks because competition makes for better work.<br />
If someone comes up with something as good as my version, I may decide to try for something better!  </p>
<p>Nobody &#8216;owns&#8217; a composition!</p>
<p>The fact of the matter is that despite repeated attempts, I can not even copy my own work if it is a good image<br />
with unique weather and light.  It is possible on a clear day with harsh light, to come up with the same<br />
composition and look, but those images number in the millions&#8230;. so what?</p>
<p>So as far as I&#8217;m concerned, any photo that looks like a copy is probably of average quality, so this whole<br />
controversey is less important than it may seem!</p>
<p>Patrick</p>
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		<title>By: Man Ray On Art And Originality &#187; Landscape Photography Blogger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Man Ray On Art And Originality &#187; Landscape Photography Blogger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 May 2010 12:43:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Copying Discussion Follow-Up &#124; Guy Tal Photography Web Journal</title>
		<link>http://www.pronaturephotographer.com/2010/05/copying-other-photographers-images-good-bad-legal/comment-page-1/#comment-336</link>
		<dc:creator>Copying Discussion Follow-Up &#124; Guy Tal Photography Web Journal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 May 2010 16:21:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I would like to draw your attention to a recent article by Charlie Borland, a man whose work I deeply respect and who offers a professional&#8217;s perspective on the topic. [...]</description>
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